I came across these old YouTube videos and thought they might be helpful for position in working a box. I don’t call the system a Budbox as it has a different design than a true Budbox. When a box is deep you have to either bounce the cattle of the back side to get them to come around you to keep them from double flowing into lead up, or you go back and get them all headed the same direction and then come forward with them to keep movement and control flow into the lead up.