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RE: Horse slaughter

This is a response to yesterday’s post on horse slaughter.

I have gotten lots of response on this which I expected.  It is great to see people so passionate about what they believe.

I would like to clear up a few things.

I am not judging what anyone else is doing, only giving my thoughts on how I feel.

My main points I wanted to make were these:

  • The people in animal agriculture must treat the animals we raise properly and in the way the public wants or we will be regulated.
  • To really treat horses the best way possible we must understand what really satisfies the horse, not what the human thinks the horse needs.
  • It is necessary for both sides of the issue to understand the change of thinking that has occurred in reference to horse-human relationships in the last thirty years.

I never said I was for or against horse slaughter, but improper handling of any animal in life and death.

I don’t think we are really helping the horse by name calling or getting angry.  The law says no horse slaughter in the U.S.  That is a fact.  It is still a country that if you follow the law, you can do what you want with your own property.  If people want to take their horse to an auction, I believe it is still legal in this country.  I am not taking mine and that’s my right.  If my neighbor wants to take his, that’s his right, and as long as he is not abusive in doing so, there is nothing I or anyone else can do about it.

The main thing in doing what you believe,  please treat the animal right and really think about what you are doing. Do the right thing.

That’s all I have got to say about this.

~ Curt Pate

Horse slaughter

I like to take difficult issues head on and try to have a common sense point of view from what I feel is factual.

First a little history – I was raised with horse slaughter.  My grandfather, Leonard Frank, was a killer horse buyer.  He would buy horses in the Helena, Montana area, and when he had a truck load would take them to a horse buyer.  Cripples, outlaws, or old horses were disposed of in this way.  We had a lead smelter in the area, and if horses were kept to close they would get leaded and were not able to be used. I remember many real good horses that were ruined because of this.

When I was old enough, I would try to fix the outlaws and horses with bad habits.  I really knew nothing about training horses, but could ride pretty good so I figured out if I could get ’em moving and not get thrown off I could fix ’em.

I remember only a few people that would not sell their horse for slaughter, but put them down and bury them on their place.  My grandfather and many other people could not understand this.

Many people still thought of horses as work animals and not many people had pleasure horses. Farmers and ranchers used the horse for work and some also went to rodeos. Gymkhana or omaksees were popular and 4-H shows were popular at the time,  but these were small with mostly ranch folks participating.  We did not see all the horse activity we see today.  Team roping, horse shows, and barrel racings were all not popular until much later.

The people that owned horses in the time I am talking about, the late 1960’s to the middle 1980’s, cared about the horses they owned, but were thought of as farm animals, not companion animals.  With farm animals, it was the way it was done to slaughter animals to dispose of them.

This does not mean they did not care about the animal.  I saw many grown men cry as they loaded an old horse on the truck, and I know they were truly sad at seeing an old companion go. Some showed no compassion at all, but most really cared about the horse they were sending to slaughter.

It is important to understand that at this time, many farmers and ranchers would put animals down with gunshot if they were not marketable.  Old or nuisance dogs, cats, or varmints were shot on the farm.  Many people today do not understand this.  We have really changed the way our emotions control our thoughts with animals.  I do not think people liked animals any less in these times, but understood the way nature worked a little better and thought of animals as a commodity with life, rather than a companion.

When you are around lots of animals, you are around lots of death.  You learn to deal with it. I have had so many animals that I have seen die.  This is tough but I have learned to deal with it.  I have not had near as many people close to me die, but the animals have helped me learn how to deal with it.

This is the problem that has come up with horse slaughter.  We have some that feel a horse is a commodity with a life, and some that think a horse is a companion animal.

Just because a person thinks of the horse as a commodity with a life does not mean he does not treat the horse to the best quality of life (from the horse’s point of view), and just because a person thinks of the horse as a companion animal does not mean she gives the horse the best quality of life (from the horse’s point of view) either.

This is a very important point for all to consider. Is the way we are caring for or handling animals really improving the quality of life? Or are we just putting human thoughts on the animal that are really not improving the animals quality of life at all, but maybe lessening it?

I have seen a huge shift in people’s opinions of how an animal should be treated in the last forty years.  People have always cared about animals, but now many people care about them so much we are running into conflicts, and laws and traditions are changing.  The horse has gone from being a beast of burden to a companion animal in a large part of the population.

In some cultures they eat dogs and cats.  They would not understand our feelings for our dogs.  Would you want to send Fido to the Philippines instead of putting them down humanely and burying them in the backyard?

If you have only known a horse as a companion animal you would feel the same way.  The people that are against horse slaughter feel the same about horses as we do about dogs.

My grandfather felt some people were cruel in the way they kept horses.  He felt horses in stalls with no exercise, horses kept alone, horses turned out with halters on, and horses without lots of feed and water were very bad.  One of his favorite things to say about horses was “fat” is always the best color on a horse.  He liked horses and took the very best care of them, yet purchased them for slaughter.

At this point I am against horse slaughter for my own horses. The reason is because of animal handling.  Horses are much more sensitive to pressure than other animals.  This includes physical and mental.  A cow can get tangled up in a barb wire fence, kick fight and pull for five minutes and it can come thru without a scratch.  A horse would either never recover or take a very long time and may be crippled for the rest of its life (and need to go to slaughter?).  A colt cannot survive being born in sub zero temps like a calf can either.

Most horses have a much higher need for self preservation than cattle.  We can teach them to trust us, but they can go to not trusting very quickly and fear takes over.  When a horse goes into panic mode it needs to run away from the danger.  If it can’t, it will protect itself with its hooves in a different way, by kicking or striking.  Horses also seem to have a more violent social order than cattle, so commingling strange horses together creates great stress if the animals can’t get out of each others’ area of comfort.

I had a horse I called “Count” that I put down and buried a few years ago.  He taught me way more than I taught him.  Count was the most sensitive and athletic horse I have ever had and maybe the best I ever rode.  He was real bad to panic and could buck a little.  He really kept me aware of everything going on around us.  He was real scared of a rope around his legs, and if he got into trouble he would leave the scene with you or without you.

I roped on him a bunch, and only got in a few panic situations.  He taught me how to keep a wreck from happening, and I learned from him how to get to roping on a very inexperienced horse safely. He got to trusting me not to get him in a jackpot, and I truly believe if I would of asked him to ride off a cliff he would have.

How could I send him into the hands of someone who does not know and maybe not even care about his fear of danger?  He was not a companion animal to me, he was my partner and I really miss my old partner.

If you have ever seen my daughter Mesa, you know she is very confident on a horse, and around all livestock.  She has not always been that way.  When she was learning to ride, she had a old horse to ride called Willard.  He was gentle and slow and she did great.  After Willard she moved on to a real good ranch horse I rode called Zoro.  He would get tired of her and buck her off. She may be the only kid to ever get bucked off in a round pen in downtown Las Vegas, Nevada.

She lost confidence and was truly afraid on a horse.  We bought a great big paint horse named Painter.  He was the best kid’s horse I have ever been around.  I credit that horse for giving Mesa not only the confidence to work with horses and cattle, but to be able to do business at a very young age, in a very confidence requiring atmosphere. It was a sad day for all of us when Painter was put down and I always have a good memory reminder when I ride by his grave.

Rio was a pony that our son Rial got when he was two years old.  The first thing he did was double barrel kick Rial in the chest.  I had to lead him at first because he would go under trees and get rid of Rial.  Pony’s have a way about them to get what they want in life.  He was a tough go for a while, and I remember my wife Tammy getting on him and trying to straiten him out.  It still makes me laugh.  We sent him to Idaho to the Hogan outfit and the best young horseman I ever saw by the name of Spike Hogan made him into a great using pony that many a kid benefited from.

Our Son Rial has more compassion for animals than many people I have observed.  I think much of this comes from Rio.  He would be so frustrated with him, get mad at him, then work things out and they would be back to best buddies.  When we put him down due to an injury, and even though  Rial had not ridden him in several years, I felt so bad for him because of his grief and we both cried.  Rial now rides broncs and is riding horses in the fox hunting world, and I am real proud of his compassion for the animals he is in contact with, and I thank Rio for that.

We all have memories horses have given us.  We all have beliefs in how animals should be treated. A fact in agriculture we must face is that we will be regulated more and more on how we care for livestock.  If we don’t comply with the wishes of the majority or the most vocal,  they may be able to regulate our decisions we make with our own property.

This has happened with horse slaughter.  My grandfather would not even of imagined this could ever have happened.  There is a big shift happening in our part of the world as far as animals are concerned.  Animal agriculture will change the way we do business.  We will either change the way we raise animals to fit the customers needs, or we will change the customer to fit our needs.

The only way we will change the customer to fit our needs is to prove to them through honesty and integrity that we are treating our animals in the best way for the animal.  We must get the public to quit thinking of animals like humans.  Do this for the animals and the humans.  We must also get better at animal care and handling on a large scale, or it will go away.

What would it take for me to send my horse to slaughter?  If I could be assured that he would be hauled, penned, and kept in a way that his brain did not have to go to the survival mode.  If I knew he would have the time to work his way through a facility that did not cause him to panic.  I would need to be guaranteed he would not have a hot shot used on him or be scared by air or a noise-making aid.  If I knew the method used to put him down was immediate and did not induce panic, I would be okay with it.

I am not sure we can accomplish this on a large scale without a huge shift in the way we train people to handle livestock and the facility design we work them in.

To me the horse slaughter issue is the canary in the coal mine.  We had better do some changing in the livestock for food production model or it will change for us.  Take animal care and handling seriously.

As I look back and honestly look at the results of the banning of horse slaughter in the U.S., I see more positives than negatives.

When it was easy for people to get rid of any horse, people were making purchases of horses that had no business owning horses.  Horses were kept in places they should not be kept, to many kept on small acreage with no regard to the environment, people riding horses and getting hurt that should not be riding in the first place, and studs breeding mares of poor quality.  It has been a tough go for the over supply already in place, and the way it was immediately implemented with no way to scale back or prepare for the lack of places to market a horse was unfair, but that is the reality of it.  Now when we purchase or breed horses we know it may be tough to get rid of them and we think before we buy, and anytime you think before you do something it is a better outcome.

Horses are a wonderful animal.  They have done so much for mankind that I think we owe them the best quality of life and the best quality of death.  The way to do this is to make a commitment to the best animal handling and husbandry skills.  That is stockmanship and stewardship.

~ Curt Pate