I started writing this a while ago after Wife Tammy’s production “Art Of The Cowgirl”.  We had a little discussion  on the ranch rodeo and the way cattle were handled.  It got me to thinking about why I do things the way I do.  So here it is, kind of long, but I think it is worth your time if you are interested in improving the way you work livestock.

I’ve been in a whirlwind for the last few of weeks.   From one event to the next with not much time between and also trying to get things done on the new ranch and getting sick in the middle of it all made for a long couple of weeks.

I had one of the best demos ever in New Orleans at NCBA convention.  Ron Gill and I had done it the day before and it didn’t go so good.  Our pressures didn’t match up very good and the cattle didn’t work very good and I didn’t feel good after the demo.

I got to think about it and figure out how to do better.  Ron had a different obligation so Dean Fish and I did the demo together, and it worked out a lot better because I changed the way I pressured and was able to talk about what I was doing better.  The cattle worked great and we were able to present it in a way that folks could really see and understand what we were talking about. I learned and changed and in 24 hours it was a much different demonstration with the same facilities and similar cattle.

I have been working very hard for the last 20 years on getting more done with better pressure and trying to present this to people in the horse and livestock world, and have never backed off what I feel is right for production livestock and  working with animals.

It is very difficult sometimes to put your thoughts and opinions out to the public and not get thoughts and opinions back from folks with their own thoughts and opinions or representing what they feel are thoughts and opinions of the pioneers or “Gurus “, in my case in the horse world Ray Hunt and the cattle world Bud Williams, the two I admire and study the most

I did not know either one on a personal level, but invested a lot of money and time in trying to get what they were offering for money to improve my skills with livestock.  I didn’t really think they were the kind of people I wanted to be friends with, and I’m pretty sure they didn’t really want to be friends with me, but they both took my money and I took their teaching for that money.  I really worked hard studying what they offered, then put it in my own mind and environment to help me with what  I wanted for my horsemanship and stockmanship.

This is very important to realize, and it took me some time to figure this out.  I would go and learn from other folks that claimed to be students of one of the Gurus, but from my observations it was nothing near my interpretation of what I learned from the teacher.  You can’t be someone else no matter how you try. You can wear the same clothes and use the same equipment but it doesn’t make you recreate what the “teacher” did to be the teacher.

Many years ago I spent a little time at Tom and Margaret Dorrance’s place.  One of the talks we had was about “Surface Workers”.  It was a talk that really effected me, and I really worked hard at not being a surface worker, but really understanding what created what I was looking for in working with livestock and horses.  The important word here is what “I” want and think is important.

I am a production agriculture guy.  The way my mind was shaped growing up was raising livestock (horses were livestock, not companion animals) for profit.

My grandfather Leonard was not a cowboy even though he wore a cowboy hat sometimes, and was probably had as many horseback miles as anyone, but he wasn’t a cowboy.

He was a horse trader, cow trader, small rancher, and somewhat of a real estate investor even though I don’t think he knew it.  He bought stuff to make a profit, and was very good at upgrading things to make that profit, or buying things right to not lose money.  He was very frugal and didn’t like spending money on anything if it wouldn’t make him money.  

He was pretty good at getting animals to do what he wanted, and was really good at getting animals to eat and get fat.  He bought a lot of horses for slaughter, and said the best color for a horse was fat.  He liked horses, but he didn’t fall in love with them.  They were for sale at a profit. He really loved his cows, always made sure they had everything they wanted and more, but when it was time to sell, he sold and didn’t let emotion get in the way.

He bought and sold small numbers of livestock and trucked cattle for people with a truck with a twenty foot bed.  We weighed a lot of small numbers of cattle and when I was around twenty years old I was really good at guessing weight on cattle.  We were always sorting and working cattle and I was good at it.

I spent much of my youth with my Grandpa Len and was really influenced by him more than anybody else.

My other Grandfather, Ed Pate was a cowboy, and worked for other people his whole life.

I didn’t get to spend as much time with him as he lived and worked in Idaho, but really liked spending time working with him.  He made a lot of money for other people taking care of their livestock, and was willing to do whatever it took in human sacrifice to make sure the man paying him had his livestock cared for, and I think he helped a lot of people die with a lot more money, while he died with not having many possessions, he instilled in me the desire to take care of animals and work hard for someone you hire out too.

I put up a lot of hay in my in my younger days but I didn’t have a passion for it.

I like feeding animals and grazing animals, so when I started looking for jobs I was focused on only jobs caring for livestock and was not very interested in farming.  I got a lot of experience and worked around some real good stockman with both sheep and cattle.  The people I learned from were more stockman than cowboy, even though they were horseback outfits.

So even though I like roping and have worked hard at getting good at it, and like riding horses that are real handy, and enjoy using dogs to help handle stock, my mind has always been on the production of livestock first, and using cowboy skills to enhance that production.

So when I started to study stockmanship skills, I had a certain mindset on what I thought was best, because of all the influences in my life.  It might have created a different desired result than you or other folks have.  That’s ok, and just because we may have different desires for the outcome, we can still share and learn ideas.

I am very happy with were I’m at right now, but not satisfied.  I know I’m going to get much better, as I have lots of desire to get better and know I can tweak the things I know and make what I know even better.

I have been riding three horses real consistent for the past couple months.  They are all a little different and none of them are pets but I’ve been getting by them pretty good.

I’ve been busy for about three weeks and it’s been cold and snowy so I haven’t been riding them for a month or so.  We had a fellow come to do some filming for a couple of days, and I saddled all three in that time, led them out of the barn  and stepped on and rode em off and went to work.  No ground work or anything and they just rode like they did when I put them up a month ago.  No surface work there.

We have had bucking bull stock around here for the last several years and they have been real good at teaching me to work with and handle lively animals.  I feel I am pretty good at working these cattle.  We moved all those animals to Oklahoma for a better climate and daughter Mesa has them.

I wanted something different to work with last winter so I found a small heard of Mini cows for sale.  They are a real ranchy looking bunch.  I am not sure if I can ever get them sold as there is not much demand for them, but I sure have had fun with them.

When I went to get them the fellow that had them used feed to move them.  They would not drive.  He used feed in a yellow bucket to get them in the corral to load them and then had to put the bucket in the trailer.  The ones that wouldn’t go on Son Rial and I had to physically put them on.  They were gentle but you couldn’t move them.

Well it’s been a year since I got them and boy they are nice to handle.  They really respond well to pressure and make real nice turns and you can park them at a gate, open the gate and they will file right through.  They are not gentle and a couple are kind of on the wild side, after they got their freedom.  They are fat and healthy and I feel like I could “put em down a gopher hole or up a telephone pole (a Tom Dorrance saying).  They are fun for me to work with and I feel like they are very well taken care of and content.

So what I am saying is not every one has the same idea of how to and what’s right with working livestock.  I think it is how you were influenced and what your goals are.  I have really taken the things that I used starting Colts for the past thirty years and put those same techniques and philosophies to use handling livestock.  I am real satisfied with that style of handling.

Bud Williams had talked about his methods of starting Colts and his thoughts on it a little, but I couldn’t get much out of him.  I finally got hold of a video he had made of his method for starting one.  It was nothing like I thought it would be and it didn’t fit what I wanted.  It fit him and I’m sure a lot of people like it but I didn’t.  It’s no problem and I still am watching his stuff trying to get better with cattle and sheep, but I am not interested in the horse stuff.

I never got to see Ray Hunt working cattle in a ranch situation, but watched him work a bunch of colts in an arena and get control of them as a herd and he could really control the movement and turns of the horses.  I have used what I learned from observing that when working with herds of cattle.  If you can get a bunch of colts ready and handling for people that maybe shouldn’t be riding colts, you can surely handle cattle and put em where you want.  His horses were incredible for that kind of work.

I’ve also been studying Temple Grandin for the past several years.  She is a sponge of all knowledge.  She learns things to add to her way of seeing things in pictures and shares them with others.  Some people don’t agree with what she is saying, but if you don’t listen to her you are missing some very good things to improve stockmanship.

So what I am trying to say is be yourself but create yourself with the help of others that create what you like.  Then really ask yourself if you are just working without really understanding, like doing and saying what someone else is doing and saying without understanding why.  

Don’t be a surface worker, even if it causes a little disagreement.

I am at the NCBA National convention this week doing demos at the trade show,then fly to Saskatchewan tomorrow to do a demo, then back home for a few days, then on to the next one, Wife Tammy’s production in Phoenix, Arizona “The Art Of The Cowgirl “.  Check it out on the inter web and come buy a horse or see the show.  It’s going to be great.

I just feel so fortunate to get to saddle a horse and work cattle in front of lots of Cattleman and right in the middle of New Orleans.  Not much different than my day at home, but a little, like 500 people watching.

HAVING FUN WITH A CAJUN GAL AT DINNER

I just had breakfast with my good friends Todd McCartney and Dean Fish.  We discussed our jobs and how great it is.  It is so good to be part of a good cowboy crew.

Today is a real special day for us.  The King of Hearts ranch is located near Bozeman, Montana and is getting a new owner today.  I have agreed to hire on to manage the ranch for him.

I am so excited to get to really implement the skills I have been working on and apply them to the every day and overall operations of a good ranch operation.

I still get to do some work off the ranch, and we will explore doing some training and schools at the ranch.

So Tammy and I are entering another stage of our great life in agriculture.  I am very serious about profit and sustainability of the ranch and am proud to work for an owner that appreciates the land.

It’s going to change my lifestyle a lot and I will have to make decisions on the limited events I can do in the future.

I have always had the goal of running a place and am glad I get this chance.  I will keep writing and sharing ideas.

Life is great!

I had a very interesting situation shape up that took place last week.

A few months ago, I was contacted and asked to give a stockmanship presentation for a conference in Lewistown, Montana.  It was not a demonstration but a talk, and for the American Prairie Reserve.  I thought it was a great idea as it was just an hour and a half from home.  I like giving stockmanship presentations for grazing organizations.

As the time for the program got closer and they must have started advertising, I started getting emails and phone calls from folks that are against what the American Prairie Reserve is doing.  They were all very professional in their opposition, but didn’t think I should be associated with the group.

First off I didn’t know what the group was, I thought it was a livestock grazing association.  Second, I have never been into the political side of agriculture and can’t be because of my goals as a teacher of stockmanship.  Third, I had given my word that I would present and I would not go back on my word.  I would have said yes even if I had known, as I will present my thoughts on stockmanship to anyone who will listen, as I believe in it and want to help people and animals.

I was very nervous about all of it though.  The title of the conference was “Living With Wildlife “ and that was a whole different topic that I was normally used to presenting.

So when I got there I was more nervous than normal, and the first thing I saw was a livestock trailer and a pickup with round bale and sign “Save the Cowboy” as a protest to the organization I was working for.

The ironic thing is the last time I had presented at the Yogo Inn, I had presented stockmanship to the very people that owned the trucks and were against this group.

I sat in on some sessions and learned some things about predator/human interaction and there were people on both sides trying to figure out solutions for livestock producers and wildlife enthusiasts to come up with for each to get what they needed.  Not an easy subject.

Well it ends up I’m the keynote after dinner speaker.  As always I had no power point presentation and really no plan of where my talk was headed.  I let the presentations and the people I listened to around me set it up in my mind what my talk was going to be.

I have always followed the advice I heard many years ago from David Nelson with Purina Mills fame.

The Three E’s.  Educate, entertain, and touch people’s emotions.  If you can do that your speaking engagement will be a success, and that’s what I always try to do.  I stepped up there with my best Greeley hat, a vest and a neck scarf, and I don’t know if I am a cowboy, but I think I at least looked like one.  The first thing I said is I am involved in and believe in production agriculture.  The next thing I said is I had presented to the folks that we in protest of this conference.

I used some humor and humility to get everyone relaxed and having fun.

I then related this experience that I had been a part of.

When I worked for Sieben Ranch Co there were two government trappers that would take care of predators that became a problem on the ranch.  Just before Easter or sometime I had a mountain lion causing problems.  I told the boss and they contacted the trappers, Jim Stevens and Carter Niemeyer. They didn’t wait, but came on the holiday and got the lion.  They were so good and really cared about the rancher and really helped me learn how to manage for less loss and conflict with coyotes and mountain lions.

Cater became a very well known wolf biologist and a big part of the reintroduction efforts of the wolf in Yellowstone National Park.  He also was a consultant for the Nicholas Evans(author of the “Horse Wisperer”) book “The Loop”.  I new him as a guy that had helped me and the ranch I worked for and he would do whatever it took to protect out livestock and had seen him do it many times.

I got to know Conrad Burns at the Jordan Match Bronc riding as he and Taylor Brown announced and auctioned the Calcutta.  When he was running for the US Senate I was announcing rodeos and ended up spending a lot of time with him.  He has been friends with Wife Tammy’s Mother for many years.  He was an old time get er done how ever you need to politician, and would do whatever he had to for the rancher and farmer.  I really liked him and got a big kick out of how he campaigned and served.

One day I was flying from Helena to somewhere.  I was standing there visiting with Carter Niemeyer as he was on the flight.  We were visiting and up walks Conrad Burns and shakes my hand and asks how everyone is.  I asked him if he knew Carter and he doesn’t miss a beat and says yes he knows this wolf loving son of a bitch!

I’ve got to look up to Carter to visit with him.  I had to bend my neck down to visit with Conrad.  He Banty Roostered there for a minute and then went on.

I got such a big kick out of it.  As luck would have it I was behind them and they both ended up sitting across the isle from each other and Conrad gave it to him the whole ride.  When we deplaned I was walking with Carter and asked if he got his mind changed and he said he didn’t even try. 

The lesson was that these issues between  ranchers and the rest of the public are very difficult as they create a behavior that is the same behavior we are trying to overcome in animal handling.  You can force animals to do things, but you are much more apt to create conflict and give up some success, whereas if you can change an animals mind and make it his idea or at least resist a little less,  the chance for success is much better.

I new Carter as a friend of the rancher and had received help from him to make the ranch I worked on succeed. Conrad’s only thought was as an enemy to the rancher as a wolf lover.  I think it was a case of two people very passionate about the job they were given, but didn’t have the right pressure to work together, so they just were in conflict and forcing the issue up the chute with a hot shot if you know what I mean.

I spoke of lots of other little story’s and examples to make my points.  I felt good about the talk and I think I made it easier for the people that are not involved with agriculture to see our point of view and not be offended.  I enjoyed visiting with them after and got some nice compliments.  I don’t think there were people there trying to ruin or steal or whatever.  Just people trying to solve and understand a problem, and use the land for what THEY think is right.

I’m glad I spoke.

The next morning I went to breakfast at a local restaurant.  I heard the coffee talk table commenting on the trucks with the banners.  From what I could get out of their conversation was that they didn’t necessarily like what the American Prairie Reserve was doing, but they figured if they had the money and someone wanted to sell to them they had every right to buy it.

I’m just telling you what I heard.  We all have our wants and needs.  My mother and Stepfather went broke in the area in the 80’s because they paid to much for land and interest.  Someone else ended up with it.  That’s the way it is.  Supply and demand.

So we have a conflict that I ended up in the middle of.  I have not even really given thought to who is right or who is wrong.  What I have given thought to is is what pressure to use to make progress.  I would much rather be halving them tipped back in their chair listening and enjoying my thoughts and having a chance of  understanding my point of view just as I will have a better chance to see things from theirs, rather than fighting and protesting.  

I feel it is the exact same thing I do when I am riding my horse away from the barn.  He might not want to go, but I try to change his mind and get him to decide to go, and pretty soon he understands.  I could whip him down the leg and spur him in the belly and if I’m handy enough to ride him through it he might leave the barn pretty fast.  But what if I can’t win and he learns how much power he has and how weak I am?

When I got back home I went to help Son Rial move back home.  I got to hold “Neo” the new grandson for the first time as last time I saw him I was sick.

I got the same feeling as when I held his Dad the first time 28 years ago.  I had a long ride home to think about it.

We have been in the “cowboy” business in my family for a long time and many generations.  If he chooses I hope this boy will carry right on with it. I think the world is very different than when my grandfathers were cowboys, and I think it will be much different when Neo gets the chance.  So I really agree that we need to “Save the Cowboy” but feel we really need to be careful how we go about it.

The world is changing.  It’s changing faster now than ever before.  If we can’t go with the change and help create the change the way we will benefit most we lose.  Don’t fight a battle you can’t win.  Do the right thing for your Grandchildren and Mine, the “Cowboys” of the future.